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empire10001: Hiya, Koi, Shadow!
Shadow: hi, sorry I'm late!
Koi: me too, lol
Shadow: had to get my eyeballs realigned.
empire10001: No problem -- though I was wondering where you were. {G}
Koi: i'm #4!!
Shadow: oh, well then .. we're all on time! ;) *giggle*
Shadow: yay, Koi!
empire10001: WAHOO!!
Koi: oooh .... #11 weekly!
empire10001: Great!
JSPEREIRA: Entered room.
empire10001: Long live the Pagan-Christian Alliance! {G}
Shadow: hello
JSPEREIRA: Hi
Koi: wooo!
Koi: hey Janna
JSPEREIRA: hey, how are the gardening and herbs going?
Koi: mine are good!
Koi: only something ate my flowers! I was so upset
Koi: my very first flowers
empire10001: My garden is suffering heat shock, darn it. :(
JSPEREIRA: eep!
Shadow: ooh, bad bunny!
Shadow: my peas are blooming!
empire10001: Oh, no, Koi!
Koi: Johnny Jump Ups
Koi: they were so pretty. I had four little blooms, 2 on each plant
JSPEREIRA: sigh
Shadow: man. that SUCKS
Koi: something ate like the whole tops
Shadow: I had a bunny eat all my honeydew plants .. I know how much that sucks
Star: Entered room.
empire10001: My moss roses are starting to bloom, but that's about it on the good stuff.
JSPEREIRA: hi star
Shadow: STAR!
empire10001: Hiya, Star!
Star: SHADOW!
Koi: we've got tons of basil and we HAD Johnny Jump Ups
Koi: but so much for that
Koi: the Oregano looks good and the flowering tobacco is HUGE but hasn't flowered yet
Shadow: that's annoying
Koi: oh, we have a few tomatoes taking root
Mari: Entered room.
Shadow: ooh .. oregano .. watch out, that stuff LOVES to conquer ....
Mari: whowhoo
empire10001: Anyone want some lavender? Mine are going wild!
Shadow: Mari! long time no see!
Shadow: ooh, I'd love some!
Mari: yeah really!
Mari: *waves*
Shadow: I tried to grow some, and it ain't working
Koi: i'm not sure which one is my lavender, lol
empire10001: Howdy, Mari!
Mari: NEVER plant spearmint!
Mari: hey!
Shadow: ANY mint!
JSPEREIRA: hee
Koi: i can't tell apart the remaining plants ... lavender, majoram, and purple coneflower
JSPEREIRA: just sniff
Koi: we have a back porch container garden
empire10001: Mint takes over everything!
Mari: i found that out the hard way
Shadow: except oregano. they fight it out
Mari: now thanks to me the neighbors on either side of me have loads of spearmint and catnip
Shadow: my parent's house .. the mint's taking over the garden .. and the oregano taking over the lawn!
empire10001: Even Round-Up has trouble killing mint.
Shadow: gods only know if there's any GRASS left!
Shadow: eeew, plant poison
Mari: get the walmart kind. it eats it right up.
JSPEREIRA: we've given up on grass...moss and otehr stuff
Shadow: yeah, what's grass, anyway? :)
JSPEREIRA: i say a moss lawn is a good thing :)
Koi: grass is bad for the mississippi, too
Koi: if you live in anything that drains into it
Mari: if i ever have a lawn, i'm covering it with some kind of ivy or moss.
empire10001: It's the stuff that keeps trying to take over my garden! And won't grow in what's supposed to be a lawn.
Mari: grass is bad for the mississippi??
JSPEREIRA: fertilizer i'm going to guess
Koi: not only the fertilizer
Koi: but grass has shallow but widespread root systems
Mari: blonde today. i've had a 13 year old and a 12 year old all day
Koi: most yard grasses are imported from africa
Koi: they don't hold tight enough to the soil and allow it all to wash down into the mississippi and its feeder rivers
Mari: <-- lives in the Bluegrass
Koi: midwestern soils require deep-rooted plants
Mari: _ACTION runs_
JSPEREIRA: aj. tjat o dodm
JSPEREIRA: excuse me, that i didn't know
Shadow: can I quote you on that?
JSPEREIRA: bwa ha ha
empire10001: Ah, so that's the problem!
Koi: the mississippi is being RUINED by soil runoff from grasses. fertilizers just kill the fish
Koi: soil runoff is killing the whole river
Koi: they only maintain like a 16-foot shipping channel these days because dredging is so expensive
Koi: it's too shallow in many places for unladen barges
Koi: i feel strongly about the evils of grass in the midwest
Koi: especially because prairie grasses are SO PRETTY and SO easy to grow
Koi: no maintenance
Shadow: how does one GET them?
empire10001: Are prairie grasses not the same kind of problem?
Koi: funny you should ask that :)
Koi: no, they're native to the area and root deeper
Koi: they're also taller, generally
Koi: but you can mow them if you want to
Mari: if i don't aswer, i'm at TC posting
empire10001: Do they do well in hot humidity, or do they need prairie dry conditions?
Koi: go to www.seedsavers.org and click on "prairie plants"
Koi: you can have your pick of grasses at very reasonable prices
Shadow: hmmmm. must see about that.
empire10001: OK, will do -- Seedsavers is a good place!
Koi: they're fairly hardy, but I'd check and see what local grasses you'd have
Mari: friend of mine in CA, he said that the only grass he can get to grow on his wife's grave is ky bluegrass. :snort:
Koi: i'm sure you have a local ecology group who knows, and knows where to get it
Mari: you go to the cemetary, and his wife's grave is the only green one.
empire10001: My husband says that grass is a curse. {G}
Koi: many prairie grasses turn red in the fall, with the leaves
Koi: it's SOOOO pretty when it's waist high
Koi: a whole field of reds and oranges
empire10001: OOOOH! I like that vision!
Mari: that sounds beautiful
Shadow: I'm just happy .. the neighborhood doesn't have *perfect* lawns, so if I DO go with *odd* grasses, I shouldn't be hated
Shadow: I can see people having problems with that
Koi: shadow, there's honestly very little that's prettier than a prairie garden in your front yard
Shadow: I believe it.
Koi: the wildflowers are bright, long-blooming, and draw butterflies like crazy
empire10001: Any we have has to look "conventional" ... our landlord likes a nice lawn, and lives next door.
Koi: and it requires you to do NOTHING. and people think you're super gardener
Shadow: ooh! flutterbys!
Shadow: heh .. one nice thing about home ownership. no worries about landlords! and we don't even have a neighborhood association .... :)
JSPEREIRA: i was thinking that when you mentioned the coneflower...that's a butterfly attracter
Koi: coneflower's southern. when we were in williamsburg we bought all seeds for plants that had been in virginia and the carolinas in the 1700s
Koi: we figured then we couldn't screw up
Shadow: I got something called butterfly weed .. i'm hoping it'll grow
Koi: oh, looks midwestner too, ignore me, lol
Koi: butterfly weed is VERY pretty. grows pretty easy
Koi: usually orangey
empire10001: Carl and Audrey are wonderful, but there's that one little thing ... which I can't creeb about when Carl tills my garden, hauls dirt down when we need it, and doesn't gripe about the dog messes out back. :)
Shadow: it's not growing!
Koi: a lot of butterfly weed by roadsides. likes crappy soil, I think
Shadow: well geeze, anything that likes crappy soil should LOVE my garden!
Shadow: maybe now that it's not raining so much
JSPEREIRA: it may have to be the right type of crappy soil :)
Koi: yeah, lol
empire10001: Tried nasturtiums? They're going great guns in a plot that wouldn't grow anything else!
JSPEREIRA: oh gods, don't even talk to me about them
Koi: i just know about environmental effects ... I'm still learning about the actual growing procedures :)
Koi: hence we're buying local plants that grow pretty easy
empire10001: Why not?
JSPEREIRA: i have bad nasturtium luck
Mari: i want tulips. lots and lots of tulips
JSPEREIRA: which i find very annoying, because i usually am good with plants
empire10001: Maybe your soil is too good? This bed has really crappy sand/clay mix.
Shadow: I used to be wonderful with plants. this garden ... not so good. :(
JSPEREIRA: i think i may coddle them too much...but i've never been able to grow them well in several differnet gardens
empire10001: Tulips are nice, but they blow away too quickly here. :(
Koi: someday I will move back to the midwest and plant my whole lawn with big bluestem, and the neighbors will hate me
empire10001: We really need Phouka for nasturtium advice, I think!
Mari: tulips blow away??
Shadow: does she have any advice other than "eat them"???
Koi: ok, so when is my damned flowering tobacco going to flower?
empire10001: Yes -- at least the blooms do, almost as soon as they open!
Mari: :-(
Mari: that's sad
JSPEREIRA: i think it's awhile...isn't flowering tobacco a summer thing?
Koi: i have no idea!
Koi: southern plants are entirely new to me
JSPEREIRA: empire, is it a heat thing?
Mari: July Koi??
empire10001: LOL! I dunno, but she seems to be pretty familiar with them. -- No, it's a Delaware spring wind thing!
Koi: maybe it'll poison whatever mean little beastie ate my flowers
JSPEREIRA: ah, okay
Mari: anybody got any coffee? i'm about to go to sleep.
JSPEREIRA: hee
Mari: _ACTION lays down in flowerbed for a snoozal_
Shadow: _ACTION hooks Mari up to the coffee IV_
JSPEREIRA: oh! the rugosas are in bloom where i am...i can smell them all over my street at work
JSPEREIRA: and the sweet briar
Mari: I have some tomatoes about ready to bring in.
JSPEREIRA: yikes, we're still getting strawberries
Mari: well, to fry. green.
Koi: magnolia's in bloom down here
Shadow: yours are about to bring IN???
Mari: green. fried. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Shadow: gods, mine haven't even bloomed. or thought about blooming. or anything
Koi: crape myrtles not yet
Mari: my husband looks every morning to see if they're ready LOL
empire10001: Koi, Nicotiana is a tropical plant that needs heat to bloom -- want "rich, moist loam in full sun", according to my encyclopedia, if that helps.
Koi: oh, it's freaking hot
Koi: it's growing like CRAZY
empire10001: Hells, my tomatoes aren't even =blooming= yet!
JSPEREIRA: my peter pepper and thai basil was just put out
JSPEREIRA: i'm not sure they've forgiven me yet
Shadow: mine are barely growing .. I'm wondering if they're gonna make it
Koi: i'm just impatient for flowers :)
Mari: well, would it make you feel better to know that two of my maters drowned?? ;-)
Shadow: patience, grasshopper!
JSPEREIRA: you have to plant the right things :)
Shadow: although I'm watching my lillies impatiently, myself
Koi: especially since SOMETHING ATE MY JOHNNIES!
JSPEREIRA: so that you have an ongoing show
Shadow: *urp*
empire10001: {{{{{KOI!}}}}}
Star: (((((Koi))))))
JSPEREIRA: i do think this calls for a cheering up visit to the local nursery
Shadow: {{{{{{Koi}}}}}}
Mari: chipmunks or rabbits maybe
Koi: so mad. they were my FIRST flowers
Shadow: ooh .. *drool* can I come? I promise not to drool all over the flowers ....
Shadow: btw, anyone know anything about growing rosemary?
JSPEREIRA: yes
JSPEREIRA: within reason
JSPEREIRA: shadow, what's your question?
empire10001: It's been so blinkin' wet here that a combine harvesting barley sank in the mud, and two huge tractors couldn't get it out -- broke two chains in the attempt. Haven't heard yet how the wrecker did.
Mari: omg!
Star: Rosemary...
Shadow: I want to buy a rosemary bush and plant it .. I'm wondering if there's anything I should know ahead of time
Koi: lol
Shadow: ye gods!
Star: I have some on my porch and it seems to withstand pretty much anything. :)
JSPEREIRA: Shadow, I don't remember where you are, what's your zone?
Shadow: hey, that's good news! :)
Shadow: Ohio
Shadow: zone ... 5? 6? can't remember without a catalogue!
JSPEREIRA: there's a hardy variety from Richter's that you may want to try if you want to keep it outside
JSPEREIRA: otherwise you'll need to bring it in for the winter
Shadow: I'd rather keep it outside, I kill houseplants
Shadow: Richter's? got it.
Mari: what about jasmine? i've been bellyaching for a jasmine since i came back from CA. i can't grow them for crap
Koi: i want to try the allegedly zone 5 hardy crape myrtles
Shadow: yummy and edible? :)
empire10001: I have yet to find an herb that won't grow despite just about anything ... except that dog urine kills creeping thyme FAST!
Koi: i want to give my mom crape myrtles
Koi: but she's zone 5
JSPEREIRA: Shadow, it's this variety http://www.richters.com/Web_store/web_store.cgi?product=X5031&cart_id=4449741.27852
Mari: Celeste just posted a message in the forum. Chat won't let her in
JSPEREIRA: if she's been up for awhile, she should try restarting, i had the same thing
Mari: k
JSPEREIRA: Mari, I used to have a jasmine, but I...uh...killed it...
JSPEREIRA: but the tricky part was it liked moisture, not being super wet, and indirect, but bright light
Mari: yeah, i did that with the one i bought, too. spent $20 on it and killed it. made me mad :-(
Mari: that's where i messed up!!
Shadow: thanks, Janna
Mari: i kept it too dry!!
JSPEREIRA: it's difficult to pullit all together i found
empire10001: Oh, does anyone know how many years it takes a wisteria to bloom? This is the second year for mine, and no blooms yet. :(
Mari: you think it could grow outside year round in Kentucky?
Koi: brb ... off for wine and lipgloss
JSPEREIRA: Mari, wisteria or jasmine?
starFL: Entered room.
Mari: if not, i have some super huge pots
Mari: oh sorry. the jasmine
Mari: hey star
starFL: hi there
Shadow: hello
JSPEREIRA: hi starFL
Shadow: oh, no, two Stars!
starFL: yup
starFL: mine is from my motorcycle V star
JSPEREIRA: I seem to remember that jasmine is very tropical...without looking it up, I'm going to guess no
Star: Hmm, this could get confusing...
starFL: where is everybody here from?
Shadow: no a/s/l checks, please
Mari: Bugger
Shadow: too bad, I love jasmine. it's yummy
Mari: I know it grows well in Northern California.
Mari: me too!
Shadow: heh .. that's why I want a rosemary plant .. save $$ by just having it growing, instead of buying the herbs!
Shadow: I just go THROUGH it!
Mari: i thought the same thing about spearmint. and i told you earlier what happened. LOL
Shadow: can't imagine what I'd do if I had jasmine, too ... :):):)
Shadow: heh. spearmint is different .. mints are EVIL!
Shadow: every time my hubby pulls the car in, my driveways smells like a toothpaste factory exploded!
empire10001: Lavender is like that, too -- I probably had the best-smelling compost heap in Delaware, when I had to do a severe cut-back!
starFL: Left room.
JSPEREIRA: hee!
Mari: lmao
empire10001: LOL!
Shadow: now isn't THAT an accomplishment to be proud of .... ;)
JSPEREIRA: you could have used it as a strewing herb
Mari: i planted cat grass for my cat a few weekds ago
Mari: and then there came about four days or five of deluging rain
Mari: and now the seeds have sprouted between the bricks in the middle of the patio
empire10001: Oh, funsies!
Shadow: oh dear
Koi: back!
Celeste621: Entered room.
scorcha: Entered room.
Mari: yay you made it!
scorcha: mm
Shadow: hello hello!
Celeste621: Thanks, rebooting helped.
Mari: yeah, the cat is all confused. "what's grass doing here???"
Koi: hey! I made a good G&T for a change
Shadow: G&T? Growing and tackling?
Koi: gin and tonic
Shadow: Growling and thumping?
Shadow: oh, that's no fun! :)
JSPEREIRA: i knew what you meant :)
Koi: i was going to have a glass of wine but then I realized that just for a change, I have tonic!
scorcha: hi star
empire10001: Heya, Celeste, Sorcha!
Koi: usually I make them too ginny or not ginny enough
JSPEREIRA: hi celeste, sorcha
Celeste621: hello
Koi: but back to gardens :D
empire10001: Yes! Is there anything that can be done for heat-shocked tomatoes?
Shadow: so, what can we grow in our garden that's fermentable? ;)
Shadow: give up and buy some at the store?
JSPEREIRA: fruit, hops
scorcha: i got a garden , just finished planting little over a week ago
Mari: :imagines fruit hopping:
JSPEREIRA: are the tomatoes wilting?
Shadow: I SO wanna grow grapes. I do
Koi: my grandpa used to in michigan, just along a random fence
scorcha: make sure they get plenty of water
empire10001: I mean, Sunday was mid-50's, and yesterday and today have been in the 90s -- no, grocery store tomatoes are mealy, tasteless JUNK!
Shadow: whatcha got, Scorcha? tell me no mint!
JSPEREIRA: my grandparents used to have concord grapes everywhere and a little arbor
Shadow: heh .. tell me how you really feel!
scorcha: i got cucumbers zuchinni, cherry tomatoes early girls tomatoes, butternut squash
scorcha: onions red potatoes yellow potatoes
scorcha: carrots
Shadow: wow!
scorcha: garlic
JSPEREIRA: oh cool, how's it all doing?
scorcha: strawberries
Shadow: *feels inadequate*
empire10001: I have grapes, but this year, they don't look good ... too much rain, I think.
scorcha: it's going pretty good, it was a hard start may rained 21 days out of the months
Star: *feels inadequate with Shadow*
scorcha: this is my 3 year with a garden each year we're making it bigger
Shadow: heh .. sounds like you live down the road from me! I don't think I SAW the sun in May!
Star: I have a tiny rosemary plant and a couple of weedy-looking petunias?
scorcha: it's a 28 x 40
empire10001: Scorcha, you are on the East Coast like me, no? {G}
scorcha: yes maine
Shadow: I've a little more than that, but I'm starting slow .. the soil is BAD. :(
Koi: rain constant here too
Mari: ann do you have a food co-op?
Koi: are you composting, shadow?
empire10001: No, we don't.
Shadow: no, I want to start, hubby's being fussy about needing something to put the compost IN, and not helping me FIND something!
scorcha: we got some cow manure
JSPEREIRA: you can improvise with some pallets
Shadow: so instead, we've a rotting pile of gunk behind the shed. oh, yes, that's SO much better!
Star: Heh. My soil is CLAY. With a tiny layer of topsoil over it. Just a tiny one.
Mari: dang. co-ops is good :-(
Koi: oh, hubby gets SO MAD when grass clippings get up on our pots from the mowing guys
Koi: I'm like ... uh ... compost? outdoors?
scorcha: i really want to do some raised beds, but i have to wait until i get some more cash
empire10001: Shadow, mulch big-time -- it'll improve the soil no end! And if you do it heavily, it works as sheet composting.
Dragon: Entered room.
Koi: like grass will hurt the plants! sheesh!
Shadow: that's next on the list .. but mulch is EXPENSIVE!
Shadow: hello
Dragon: Hello
Celeste621: Hey, Dragon.
Mari: hey
empire10001: Three years of mulching has my lifelong-farmer landlord impressed with =my= garden!
Koi: hey, what the heck is a serviceberry?
Dragon: gee I stay away from delphi for a few days and come back to 2000+ messages in like 2 of my forums
scorcha: ever heard of Lasagna gardening?
JSPEREIRA: that's when you layer, correct?
Shadow: wow, THAT sounds fattening!
scorcha: yes
JSPEREIRA: greens and browns, IIRC
Shadow: oh .. not where you grow everything for lasagne? (of course, where would I put the cow?)
scorcha: you put newspaper down then layer with compost fertilizer soil
Mari: service berry??
Star: Service berry: "n 1: any of various North American trees or shrubs having showy white flowers and edible blue-black or purplish fruit [syn: Juneberry, service tree, shadbush, shadblow] 2: edible purple or red berries [syn: saskatoon, shadberry, juneberry]"
Star: (courtesy Dictionary.com)
scorcha: i heard it works really well for area's with bad soil
Mari: mmmmmmmmmmmmmm berries
empire10001: Shadow, not you, too! My hubby wants me to plant pizza seeds ... ::sigh::
scorcha: there's a community i joined at msn called our garden gang it's given me a ton of ideas
Shadow: I can make homemade pizza! :):):)
scorcha: i got a bread machine i used to make pizza doughs with, loved the garlic crust i used to make
scorcha: now i have garlic in garden so that should be wicked cool
empire10001: Berries! Yes! Audrey gave me three blackberry shoots from her plant, and they're thriving ... next year, BLACKBERRIES!
Shadow: ooooh
Star: Ha! Now that we have.
Star: We have blackberries growing wild.
scorcha: i got a bunch of wild ones growing out back
JSPEREIRA: just be careful with the blackberries :)
empire10001: Garlic grown in acid soil is incredible!
Koi: i lurve blackberries
Star: No muss, no fuss, just pick them when they're ripe!
Dragon: Left room.
JSPEREIRA: don't let them form a thicket
scorcha: i got razberries too
empire10001: Why, they take over?
Koi: I want to move back to a place where yummy things grow
Koi: instead of tobacco and kudzu
JSPEREIRA: yes, and the worst part is, you can't get at them to pick them
Mari: kudzu sucks
empire10001: Hmm, Audrey was telling me about training them onto a trellis ... maybe I ought to consider that.
scorcha: my aunt used to tie them to a stake in her garden
empire10001: Wonder if tomato cages would work?
Koi: grandpa grew them over a fence
Mari: brb y'all
scorcha: i dont see why they wouldnt work with blackberries
Koi: in a side, quasi-related crafting note, I got a needlework catalog today!
empire10001: Oh, yeah? From whom?
Koi: keepsake needlearts
Koi: it's cute, though lots of it is * cough* twee
scorcha: cool i got a knitting machine
scorcha: i make sweaters hats and scarfs
empire10001: Keepsake ... hmm. I get a catalog from Keepsake Quilting ... nice stuff, but awfully pricey.
Shadow: a knitting MACHINE????
Shadow: that's .... weird.
Koi: different company
Koi: i get keepsake quilting too :D
Shadow: no offense, it just hurts the brain!
scorcha: well i can make a sweater in 3 hours instead of days or weeks.lol
Koi: knitting machines are cool!
Koi: where do you think your T-shirts come from, shadow?
Shadow: I know .. but it's STILL weird!
Shadow: hey, I have issues, what's your point???
scorcha: lol
JSPEREIRA: it can also be programmed, so you can get pretyt creative
scorcha: i can do patterns 200 stitches wide
scorcha: but i have to hand punch the stitches in, and that takes forever
scorcha: it's a compuerised machine
empire10001: I don't do my crafts by machine (except occasionally using the sewing machine for some of my quilting), but that's a personal taste -- I like doing handwork!
Mari: back now
scorcha: i'm also working on a herb garden
Shadow: I just don't do crafts except when around other people .. machines would get in the way!
empire10001: Be careful ... all the herbs I've grown try to take over!
Shadow: crochet is for chatting! :)
scorcha: i used to crochet
Koi: oh, we had basil in our pasta sauce that we grew in our garden
Koi: very proud
empire10001: Spinning is for chatting. {G}
empire10001: WTG, Koi!
Celeste621: All of my herbs seem to be growing except for the rosemary. It's still scrawny.
Star: Yay Koi!
scorcha: i got basil thyme, lemon thyme, chamomile and st johns wort
Celeste621: Yum, basil.
empire10001: Give it time, if you just planted it -- perennials do take 3 years to get going good.
Celeste621: Ah, I see
scorcha: yeah my strawberries are only 2 yrs old, this year they are doing better then the first year
Celeste621: I was hoping it was just a late bloomer. Poor thing looks so small and sad next to my rampant mints. ^^
Celeste621: Oh, I'd love to grow strawberries someday.
empire10001: Just protect it from the mints!
Celeste621: lol My mints are safely contained in pots on the porch
Celeste621: They're huge.
JSPEREIRA: we inheireted strawberries from the previous owner! very pleasant surprise
scorcha: that's cool
Celeste621: I bet, wow.
Shadow: I'm still not sure if I've got strawberries or not .. they look like strawberries, but I've never seen any fruit!
JSPEREIRA: hmm
Celeste621: lol I had that problem with a sunflower once
Celeste621: I couldn't tell if it was a tall weed or a young sunflower
Star: K, gotta go. Might be back later, if y'all are still here. :)
Star: Laters!
Celeste621: bye
Koi: later!
Mari: bye!
Star: Left room.
Shadow_2: Entered room.
Shadow_2: _ACTION glares at Shadow_
Shadow_2: _ACTION clonedances with Shadow_
empire10001: LOL!
Shadow: Left room.
Mari: oh my
Shadow: ???
Mari: that hurt my brain LOL
Koi: lol
Shadow: sheesh!
Shadow: here, let me eat that brain for you .. take all the pain away ....
Mari: heh
Shadow: _ACTION chases after Mari's brain_
Koi: so, off topic ... i prayed in public this weekend and avoided making an ass of myself
Koi: that is a rare occurrance
Koi: it was extemporaneous, too
Shadow: _ACTION golfclaps. ;)_
empire10001: Good for you, Koi! :)
Shadow: what was the occasion?
Mari: :D
Koi: uncle's 50th
Koi: surprise birthday party :D
Koi: whole clan came
empire10001: Sounds nice!
Shadow: praying he wouldn't have a heart attack from it? ;)
Koi: lol
Koi: he was darn surprised. and sooooo pleased
Koi: no, he has no kids of his own
Koi: so i thanked god on behalf of the nieces and nephews for making us his children
Koi: and for allowing us to be his "yod v'shem" ... monument and a name
Shadow: aww! that's sweet!
Celeste621: aw :)
JSPEREIRA: :)
empire10001: I like that -- very nice!
Koi: God promises all men "yod v'shem" ... children, usually, or someone else, who will remember his name for seven generations
Koi: i.e., through all eternity
Koi: yod v'shem = a monument and a name
Koi: and monument in this context also means penis
Shadow: shouldn't he keep his?
Koi: but I didn't explain that during the prayer, lol
Shadow: as opposed to y'all keeping it for him?
empire10001: I should hope not! {G}
Shadow: _ACTION runs_
Mari: shadow! LMAO
Koi: yod = hand = euphemism for penis = monument, like the washington monument
Koi: penis = children/fertility
scorcha: bbl .:) nice chatting with you
Koi: but, see, it's better not to explain these things, lol
scorcha: Left room.
Shadow: byes!
Koi: i usually sound like an idiot when i pray in public so I was pleased this one came out OK
empire10001: Other-culture (not symbolism, exactly, but literal/vs/symbolic meaning) can be confusing, yes. And not well understood. {G}
Shadow: ye gods, why am I so TIRED????
Shadow: especially archaic .. it just SOUNDS so funny in modern usage, sometimes
empire10001: It's hot and sticky where you are, after being cool?
Shadow: mmm, proly. the high did just jump about 20 degrees
empire10001: Same here, and I'm feeling wrung out myself.
Koi: hot here too
Celeste621: ugh, the sudden heat was draining
Koi: but always hot here :)
Celeste621: i dunno how you stand that, Koi
Celeste621: I have a thing against sweating
Shadow: it was nice and cool in the basement where I work until just this evening, though .. the air finally filtered around the house
Koi: oooh ... cross stitched military emblems
Koi: I DON"T stand it.
Koi: I stay inside all the time and suck hits of my inhaler when I go outside
Shadow: tomorrow .. ac!
Koi: and then have massive asthma attacks anyway
Koi: sucks
empire10001: Yes! It's not so bad when it's gradual, but when it goes from cool and comfortable to hot and sticky, I do not do well.
Mari: thanks to the gods for air conditioning
Mari: :runs:
Celeste621: lol
Shadow: {{{{{Koi}}}}}}
empire10001: Koi, where! I wanna do a MC Emblem!
Celeste621: My poor piggy had a bit too much heat today. Even when I heard what the temps were, I still underestimated how hot it was going to feel. Poor guy.
Koi: one sec, I'll find it online for you
empire10001: Danke!
Koi: when we went to williamsburg, we learned that 1/3 of colonists died in the first 30 months they arrived from the climate
Koi: I CLEARLY would have been one of those colonists
Shadow: can't say I blame them!
Shadow: I think I'd've VOLUNTEERED to have been one of those colonists ....
Celeste621: I believe it.
Shadow: hell, I'd've gone from the skin cancer. I burn like you wouldn't believe .. nothing else would have time to kill me!
empire10001: From England to Virginia -- yup! I'd probably have been a survivor, but a miserable one!
Mari: what i don't understand is how all those southern belles went around in those voluminous dresses! were they insane?
Celeste621: Those tight corsets blocked the oxygen from getting to their brains
Celeste621: I bet they went insane
Mari: had to !!
Shadow: actually, depending on how dresses like that are made, they can actually be quite cool
Koi: http://www.123stitch.com/military.html
Shadow: of course, screw the corset!
Koi: also they lived in houses appropriate to the climate and napped during the heat of the day naked
empire10001: How do women in Arabia survive in those black blankets? They could at least be allowed to wear white!
empire10001: Danke, Koi!
Koi: you know, when I was in DC for the summer I wore long sleeves every single day, and I was SOOOOO much cooler
Mari: just the thought makes me wilt LOL
Koi: keepsake needlework has the kits, not just the pamphlets, but no website: 1-800-852-7338 for a catalog
Koi: i wore a long-sleeved linen shirt and it was MUCH cooler than having bare arms
Koi: interesting lesson, that
empire10001: I wear long sleeves here in summer, while gardening, but they're light colored!
Mari: just the thought of being outside here in the summer makes me ill. :-( it gets some nasty
Shadow: _ACTION wears a house_
Koi: mine was a natural color
Koi: beige or whatever
Koi: i was protecting my skin from the sun for the wedding
Koi: no skin on my sun alllllllll summer long
Mari: i hear that shadow
Celeste621: Have a good night, everyone.
Celeste621: Left room.
Shadow: no lobster-Koi for the big day?
Koi: nope
Koi: my dress was all about "creamy skin"
Koi: so I worked hard to have that nice mid-winter creamy skin
Shadow: I only garden early or late, myself .. keep OUT of the sun during the heat of the day!
Koi: omg ...
Shadow: ??
Koi: my cousin this weekend, he's about 9 or 10, asked his mom, "Mom, why is Koi so PALE?"
empire10001: Getting late for me, since I have to get up pretty early tomorrow -- see y'all later!
Koi: "she's so WHITE. is that normal?"
Shadow: g'night!
Shadow: *giggle*
Mari: yeah, the cat and i sit on the patio either if iget up early for some reason or after the sun's gone over in the evening
Mari: bye ann!
empire10001: Left room.
Koi: not like he's exactly the bastien of tan, either! being from the same family
Mari: if it's not 90 in the shade
Shadow: I used to be able to get out of any class I wanted to go to the nurse, just by relaxing my face .. I ALWAYS look pale!
Koi: I have cousins who are multiracial, and one of them is a DEAD RINGER for Derek Jeter
Koi: know who that is?
JSPEREIRA: ?
Mari: plays for a baseball team
Shadow: name rings a bell .. but damn if I know
Mari: cute as heck
Koi: black baseball player
JSPEREIRA: ah
Koi: shortstop for the yankees
Mari: shadow, the cat finally came out from under the bed
Koi: anyway, Jeter himself walks into the store where my cousin works one day and says, "Holy crap, man ... we could be COUSINS!"
Shadow: y'know, I think Ann had the right idea .. I'm falling asleep here!
Shadow: heh .. good, Mari!
Mari: :D
JSPEREIRA: hee koi
Koi: Upon hearing the story I said, "That's only because he doesn't know what your real cousins look like."
Shadow: g'night, y'all!
Mari: nigh shadow!
JSPEREIRA: good night
Koi: night shadow!
Mari: am going to motor as well. i have evening chores to do. see y'all later!
JSPEREIRA: i'm off myself, good night all
Koi: me too.
Koi: Left room.
JSPEREIRA: Left room.
Mari: NIGHT
Shadow: Left room.
Mari: Left room.